11 || December || 2024
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Issue #80
From engineeringto growth
Greetings ET people
In an interview with Joshua Udonne, this weekâs Entering Tech guest, we asked a simple icebreaker question, âIf you got stranded on an island for one week, what three items would you bring along with you?â
âA knife, something to purify water with, and a strong rope,â he responded.Â
âWhy do you need a strong rope, Joshua?â
âI grew up on a farm. Thereâs this tent-like structure I learned to build as a kid using banana leaves. It would come in handy on the island when I need to build tents with whatever is available, or even make rafts, for example, so a search and rescue party can find me.â
We wonât judge you if youâd have immediately screamed, âMy phone and Starlinkâ in that situation. But Joshuaâs answer showed his survival instinctsâskills he describes as very useful in his role as a growth marketer at Interswitch.
âAs a growth marketer, much of your job is just adapting.â
Hereâs the story of Joshua and how he climbed the career ladder in tech.
Why Growth, anyway?
There have been misconceptions about what âgrowth marketingâ truly means for businesses. We are a little confused too by the different shades of marketing functions. Naturally, this was the first question we asked.
âExplaining growth to a five-year-old, itâs like owning a zobo stand at Onike, Yaba. You are looking for ways to sell that zobo drink to Kamoru. And then Kamoru tells his friend, Basira, that you have the best zobo stand in Onike. That way, more kids begin to discover your zobo stand. Youâll sell more, make more money, and expand from Onike to Eko Hotel,â explained Joshua.
âThatâs what I do at Interswitch. I find ways to scale the businessâeverything about revenue and numbers that move the business forward.â
Joshua, with over eight years of experience in marketing, has worked across marketing agencies, social media, entertainment, and fintech industries.
But he wasnât always pro-marketing.
Back in 2015, he embodied everything youâve read about classic engineersâhe wanted to get paid for practising a career he thought could make a difference in the world.
At the time, Joshua had just graduated from the Federal University of Technology, Owerri (FUTO), where he studied Polymer and Textile Engineering.
In 2018, he got an opportunity to work on the Lagos State Employment Trust Fund (LSETF), a talent development programme initiated by former governor Akinwunmi Ambode. He calls it the opportunity that changed his life.
âI was working with a senior marketing manager on the team and weâd been tasked to bring in 60 people, particularly artisans, to take the courses and improve their skills. We were running a lot of ads on a small budget, and I remember thinking, âthese people weâre looking for are not on the internetâat least not in 2018.ââ
âSo we went into the streets, sports-betting centres, the game houses, markets, and art exhibition centres. We filled the 60 seats in one day.â
That experience strengthened Joshuaâs resolve to pursue marketing fully. And today, he says combining traditional marketing and digital marketing methods is his idealistic approach to growth.
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Flipping the switch at Interswitch
2016â2018: Social media marketing at Decke Academy
2017â2018: Social media marketing & content marketing at Decke Integra Resources
2018: LSETF role
2021: Digital marketing at VoguePay
2022â2023: Digital marketing at Paga
2023âpresent: Growth marketing at Interswitch Group
Before LSETF, Joshuaâs first role was a social media specialist role for a vocational training school in 2016. He was later promoted within the company to manage social media and oversee all content for an interior design firm. It was a role he said frustrated him.
âThe company had like eight subsidiaries, with more products than customers. Theyâd just brought me inâsomebody that just finished NYSCâas their social media manager to push all their brands. I had no training for it, and I remember I was learning on the job. It was just chaotic.â
Working on the LSETF product provided Joshua with a pathway to pursue something in growth marketing. So, he quit his social media role at the interior design firm and went to learn digital marketing.
Between 2020 and 2022, he worked for different marketing agencies, including Ads & Web, Piston and Fusion Limited, and Red Lantern, where he learnt more about digital marketing, strategy, and paid media.
But Paga was the turning point in Joshuaâs career. Though he had applied for a digital marketing role at Paga in late 2021, he didnât get the job.Â
âThey stopped recruiting; that was the communication we got. But then they reached out to me. I think they saw the campaign I was doing with Red Lantern and liked that project. That was how I got into Paga.â
Joshua juggled digital marketing and later, growth responsibilities, at Paga for over a year. This was a time he fondly remembers as the experience that helped him stand out to recruiters.
His next role was Interswitch, where he is currently driving growth marketing initiatives. Heâs been with the company since 2023.
Adapt to survive
As a growth marketer at Interswitch, Joshua says a typical busy day involves a lot of strategising, collaborating with cross-functional teams like marketing, product, and operations teams, and executing on those strategies.
âThe most challenging thing about my work is managing the constant need for experimenting. Iâm a growth marketer, thatâs all I do. [In experimenting], youâre trying to balance short-term results with long-term strategy.â
âYouâre trying different things, and youâre tracking every single thing. The tiring thing is the constant documentation process.â
Yet, Joshua says the work has its perks. He and his team at Quicktellerâan Interswitch subsidiary where he worksârecently pulled off a growth activation campaign, City Tour with Vervelife, where they travelled to five cities across Nigeria to attract new customers and reward current active Quickteller users.
âWe went to Uyo, Abuja, Ibadan, Enugu, and had a grand finale in Lagos. The people were really happy to see us. Iâm incredibly proud of the work Iâve done at [Quickteller].â
Joshuaâs day-to-day tools include Google Analytics for analysing customer acquisition data; Microsoft Clarity for customer behaviour; Amplitude to track retention; Zapier for automation; and HubSpot for emails and CRM.
Joshuaâs recipe for success in his growth marketing career is two-fold: first, understand yourself. Then understand people.
âWhile it is important, Growth isnât all about revenue, retention, and managing churn. Your biggest struggle on the job will likely be managing stakeholders.â
If youâre new in your tech career, Joshua advises that you find greater success in qualities you naturally gravitate towards; then find a way to apply it in your role. He says thatâs how he has adapted over the years.
And in the next five years, Joshua says he wants to pursue leadership roles in growth marketing.
âIâm very extroverted. I donât even think I will survive remote work where Iâm staying in the house 9â5; I like seeing peopleâmy co-workersâeveryday. Because I know Iâm extroverted, I typically put my energy toward activations, so I can be closer to people, and learn more about our customers who drive business forward for us.â
Joshua is also putting together a personal mentoring programme soon for recent school-leavers. To learn more about it, you can message him on LinkedIn.
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